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		<title>By: dennisstevens</title>
		<link>http://xprogramming.com/blog/my-named-cloud-is-better-than-your-named-cloud/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>dennisstevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an aside @ronjeffries I see some humor in slamming the named cloud PMI. Is PMI the best? &quot;I hope the hell not.&quot;   Naming the things that need to be done to run a project is helpful. To some extent, PMI has an understanding that they are naming what&#039;s needs to be done and not prescribing how&#039;s. While often implemented desctructively, the what focus creates some space for context specific discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an aside @ronjeffries I see some humor in slamming the named cloud PMI. Is PMI the best? &#8220;I hope the hell not.&#8221;   Naming the things that need to be done to run a project is helpful. To some extent, PMI has an understanding that they are naming what&#8217;s needs to be done and not prescribing how&#8217;s. While often implemented desctructively, the what focus creates some space for context specific discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: dennisstevens</title>
		<link>http://xprogramming.com/blog/my-named-cloud-is-better-than-your-named-cloud/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>dennisstevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scrum articulates some capabilities that teams have used to successfully deliver software products. XP has some of the same capabilities and a whole set of engineering capabilities that other teams have used. These two are often used together to great success. Kanban actually has some new capabilities and implements some of the other capabilities differently. Kanban is not completely distinct in every capability from Scrum, XP, and all the other agile methods. But Kanban has some specific differences in the implementation of several capabilities. These differences should be explored and clarified for the community. 

An important part of naming is that it leads to understanding. Without naming we can&#039;t build a shared understanding of what we are doing and grow our knowledge. The real value is going to come when we start specifying the capabilities, the distinctions in specific implementations, and start figuring out what works best in which contexts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scrum articulates some capabilities that teams have used to successfully deliver software products. XP has some of the same capabilities and a whole set of engineering capabilities that other teams have used. These two are often used together to great success. Kanban actually has some new capabilities and implements some of the other capabilities differently. Kanban is not completely distinct in every capability from Scrum, XP, and all the other agile methods. But Kanban has some specific differences in the implementation of several capabilities. These differences should be explored and clarified for the community. </p>
<p>An important part of naming is that it leads to understanding. Without naming we can&#8217;t build a shared understanding of what we are doing and grow our knowledge. The real value is going to come when we start specifying the capabilities, the distinctions in specific implementations, and start figuring out what works best in which contexts.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dubakov</title>
		<link>http://xprogramming.com/blog/my-named-cloud-is-better-than-your-named-cloud/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Dubakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me what Ron says is pretty obvious. It is really hard to understand (IMHO) how people can fight against Scrum, using Kanban or XP, and vice versa. Environment and Context rule them all. Adaptation is a key. &quot;Who the hell cares&quot; is a really good phrase :) You should adapt to your environment and focus on productivity improvement. When you have this focus, you should be creative finding weak areas and fixing them. That is a natural approach for any software development team. 

Scrum and XP just provide a good set of practices/roles/rules to start with. Then you should forget about strict methodology and follow your goal (super-productive development team).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me what Ron says is pretty obvious. It is really hard to understand (IMHO) how people can fight against Scrum, using Kanban or XP, and vice versa. Environment and Context rule them all. Adaptation is a key. &#8220;Who the hell cares&#8221; is a really good phrase :) You should adapt to your environment and focus on productivity improvement. When you have this focus, you should be creative finding weak areas and fixing them. That is a natural approach for any software development team. </p>
<p>Scrum and XP just provide a good set of practices/roles/rules to start with. Then you should forget about strict methodology and follow your goal (super-productive development team).</p>
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		<title>By: haxrchick</title>
		<link>http://xprogramming.com/blog/my-named-cloud-is-better-than-your-named-cloud/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>haxrchick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Who the hell cares???&quot;

hahaha, thank you!  I think sometimes it&#039;s easier to blindly follow a cloud because it already exists (someone has already figured out the rules for us) then it is to stop and THINK about what is actually best for us at this particular point in time.  

Thanks for the reminder that thinking &amp; adapting is always the Right Answer :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Who the hell cares???&#8221;</p>
<p>hahaha, thank you!  I think sometimes it&#8217;s easier to blindly follow a cloud because it already exists (someone has already figured out the rules for us) then it is to stop and THINK about what is actually best for us at this particular point in time.  </p>
<p>Thanks for the reminder that thinking &amp; adapting is always the Right Answer :-)</p>
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		<title>By: lanmind</title>
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		<dc:creator>lanmind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I largely disagree with the tenets of most - but not all - of the new methodologies, but man, I&#039;m sure on board with this post.  Do what&#039;s good for the organization.  Somebody think of the children!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I largely disagree with the tenets of most &#8211; but not all &#8211; of the new methodologies, but man, I&#8217;m sure on board with this post.  Do what&#8217;s good for the organization.  Somebody think of the children!</p>
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		<title>By: jshingler</title>
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		<dc:creator>jshingler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article, Totally agree.

Too often people miss the point.  It is a set of technique that is meant to be adapted as appropriate for the situation.  You know, that ole hammer / nail thing.  Oops maybe it is a screw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article, Totally agree.</p>
<p>Too often people miss the point.  It is a set of technique that is meant to be adapted as appropriate for the situation.  You know, that ole hammer / nail thing.  Oops maybe it is a screw.</p>
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		<title>By: tobiasmayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>tobiasmayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post Ron.  It&#039;s a shame that the usual suspects take this as an opportunity to do more CSM-bashing.  The CSM program has benefited multitudes of people, it has helped spread Agile thinking far more widely than any other named thing, including Agile itself. 

I do feel there is value in naming things.  It isn&#039;t just about wanting to be better than another named thing, it is about creating identity.  I associate myself with Scrum, because everything about it, including its ludicrous name, speaks to me of irreverence, of improved personal relationships at work, of true self-organization, of trust and courage.

As soon as people talk of Scrum as a process they have lost the plot.  It isn&#039;t.  It is a mindset, a way of thinking and behaving that fundamentally challenges everything we have previously thought was correct.  I don&#039;t see Kanban having that same change-the-world focus, it seems to be about moving cards across a wall (I guess I may be missing some detail, but really I don&#039;t hear much else about Kanban).  

Scrum might be a named cloud, some day to dissolve, but while it is here it is very beautiful to behold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Ron.  It&#8217;s a shame that the usual suspects take this as an opportunity to do more CSM-bashing.  The CSM program has benefited multitudes of people, it has helped spread Agile thinking far more widely than any other named thing, including Agile itself. </p>
<p>I do feel there is value in naming things.  It isn&#8217;t just about wanting to be better than another named thing, it is about creating identity.  I associate myself with Scrum, because everything about it, including its ludicrous name, speaks to me of irreverence, of improved personal relationships at work, of true self-organization, of trust and courage.</p>
<p>As soon as people talk of Scrum as a process they have lost the plot.  It isn&#8217;t.  It is a mindset, a way of thinking and behaving that fundamentally challenges everything we have previously thought was correct.  I don&#8217;t see Kanban having that same change-the-world focus, it seems to be about moving cards across a wall (I guess I may be missing some detail, but really I don&#8217;t hear much else about Kanban).  </p>
<p>Scrum might be a named cloud, some day to dissolve, but while it is here it is very beautiful to behold.</p>
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		<title>By: ellengott</title>
		<link>http://xprogramming.com/blog/my-named-cloud-is-better-than-your-named-cloud/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>ellengott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post Ron. i so agree...your name cloud metaphor is similar to how some promote their way  as &quot;the&quot; way. Or, to use a given &quot;best practice&quot;. 

There are no &quot;best&quot; practices, me-htinks. rather, good practices applied practically and appropriately. 

thanks for bringing this to the surface,
~ ellen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Ron. i so agree&#8230;your name cloud metaphor is similar to how some promote their way  as &#8220;the&#8221; way. Or, to use a given &#8220;best practice&#8221;. </p>
<p>There are no &#8220;best&#8221; practices, me-htinks. rather, good practices applied practically and appropriately. </p>
<p>thanks for bringing this to the surface,<br />
~ ellen</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Jeffries</title>
		<link>http://xprogramming.com/blog/my-named-cloud-is-better-than-your-named-cloud/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Jeffries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ alshall:

First, the logic: Offering certification does not imply that one topic area is better than another. Does the fact that PMI offers certification imply that the PMI&#039;s ideas are best? I hope to hell not. 

Second, the question of why Scrum offers certification: As I see it, certification is a way of marketing ideas, and it has turned out to be a very good one in the case of Scrum. 

Third, one might wonder why I would take part in this. The answers are two: My class is a good way of helping interested people do better with software development, and I make a little money at it, which permits me to continue to do what I do. See also my reply to Keith, above.

Fourth, as to why the cloud, community, tribe bans people: The cloud, community, tribe do not ban people. Ken Schwaber, an individual, has banned some people from the Scrum Development list, including you, and me. To the best of my knowledge he does that when people persist in asking questions that he thinks are inappropriate to the mailing list. As he is the moderator of that list, that is his right. It may reflect upon him but it does not reflect on the community at large.

Finally, let me refer you again to the story of the monks who encounter a woman who needs to cross the stream. I put her down a long time ago, and I recommend the same to you.

Thanks for stopping by!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ alshall:</p>
<p>First, the logic: Offering certification does not imply that one topic area is better than another. Does the fact that PMI offers certification imply that the PMI&#8217;s ideas are best? I hope to hell not. </p>
<p>Second, the question of why Scrum offers certification: As I see it, certification is a way of marketing ideas, and it has turned out to be a very good one in the case of Scrum. </p>
<p>Third, one might wonder why I would take part in this. The answers are two: My class is a good way of helping interested people do better with software development, and I make a little money at it, which permits me to continue to do what I do. See also my reply to Keith, above.</p>
<p>Fourth, as to why the cloud, community, tribe bans people: The cloud, community, tribe do not ban people. Ken Schwaber, an individual, has banned some people from the Scrum Development list, including you, and me. To the best of my knowledge he does that when people persist in asking questions that he thinks are inappropriate to the mailing list. As he is the moderator of that list, that is his right. It may reflect upon him but it does not reflect on the community at large.</p>
<p>Finally, let me refer you again to the story of the monks who encounter a woman who needs to cross the stream. I put her down a long time ago, and I recommend the same to you.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Jeffries</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Jeffries</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Keith Braithwaite:

I think my mission is to go where the questions are, and to speak the truth as I understand it. It seems to be working fairly well so far.

As a CST I have the responsibility to give the participants all that I can on the subject of how to do software development well. I find that they are interested in learning that material and that they generally rate the class as quite useful. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Keith Braithwaite:</p>
<p>I think my mission is to go where the questions are, and to speak the truth as I understand it. It seems to be working fairly well so far.</p>
<p>As a CST I have the responsibility to give the participants all that I can on the subject of how to do software development well. I find that they are interested in learning that material and that they generally rate the class as quite useful.</p>
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